SHUB Damage types & Recommended Armor

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  1. Legends

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    During the summer of 2017 I did some testing on Shubs and determined that the damage they deal is as follows:

    18% Penetration
    35% Impact
    15% Cut
    32% Stab

    I did this testing on the Level 17 Combatant Shubs only. This damage distribution is not confirmed to be the same on all levels and maturities.

    If, like most of us, you do not currently own one of the incredibly cost-efficient healing tools such as an Adjusted Resto chip or Modified Fap, then it will be much more economical for you to protect yourself using the right combination of Armor and Plates.

    In my Armor Shop (Cthulhu Tower, Floor 9, Shop 3), you will find many Armor options suitable for hunting Shubs on Monria. However I would like to provide additional information regarding these options, which one is better, which one is more economical, etc... The Armor set-ups below are listed from strongest to weakest against Shubs specifically. Note that some of these armor options are being listed here specifically because they are suitable for hunting all mobs on Monria, not just Shubs.

    When an Armor or Plate name is colored
    yellow, it means that this is an item which is available in the Monria Armor Shop (armor sets might not be available in both male and female, or might not be complete).

    First allow me a quick discussion about your choice of armor plates. Due to the type and distribution of the Shub’s damage, there is really only about a dozen armor plates that will be of any real benefit to you. Your choice of which plates to use should really depend on whether you require more Impact/Cut/Stab protection, or if you require more Penetration protection. I will just lay out from the highest level of protection to the lowest level of protection these armor plate options below:

    For armors that require a boost in Impact/Cut/Stab protection:
    AP-42 Impact or Stab (L) – 42 points
    Moonshine plate 1 (L) – 40 points

    Pulsar 10 (L) – 38 points
    AP-36 Impact or Stab (L) – 36 points
    Pulsar 8 (L) – 36 points (most of that is Cut, which isn't as useful against Shubs)

    Pulsar 5 (L) – 33 Points (28 Impact, 5 Stab)
    POP Dragon plates mk1 (L) – 30 points
    AP-30 Impact or Stab (L) – 30 points
    Mark.5B – 29 points

    AP-24 Impact or Stab (L) – 24 points

    For armors that have sufficient Impact/Cut/Stab but require a boost in Penetration protection:
    AP-30 Penetration (L) – 30 points
    Pulsar 6 (L) – 29 points (+5 Cut)
    AP-24 Penetration (L) – 24 points
    Moonshine plate 2 (L) – 20 points
    AP-18 Penetration (L) – 18 points

    Pulsar 9 (L) – 15 points
    Mark.7A (L) – 13 points (+2 Impact & 3 Cut)
    AP-12 Penetration (L) – 12 points

    Mark.6A – 11 points
    Mark.3B – 8 points (+2 Impact)
    Mark.5C – 8 points

    For Armors that need both their Impact/Cut/Stab & Penetration protection increased, the following options are available:
    NEVERDIE Dragon plate mk3 (L) – 36 Impact/Cut/Stab + 12 points of Penetration
    NEVERDIE Dragon plate mk2 (L) – 30 Impact/Cut/Stab + 10 points of Penetration

    NEVERDIE Dragon plate mk1 (L) – 24 Impact/Cut/Stab + 8 points of Penetration
    JOPLIN Dragon plate mk2 (L) – 10 Impact + 12 Penetration

    A comment on the armor recommendations below:

    The more you hunt and the more your Evade skill increases. The higher your Evade, the fewer hits will be inflicted onto you by the mob. In addition to that, if your skills allow you to use higher level weapons, you will be able to kill mobs more rapidly, affording them less time for which to deal you damage. Some of you may find that the recommended protection below is too high for your needs and I understand that. Take into consideration your hunting skills before making a selection. These armor suggestions are for an average hunter, a hunter with enough skills to kill these Shubs but an Evade level somewhere between 12 and 18.

    If you are looking to hunt the big Shubs (level 35 and above) in the Shub Cavern, then I recommend the following armor set ups:

    The armors below are listed from strongest to weakest against big Shubs:
    Mayhem (L): The Mayhem armor is mostly a close range combat armor, i.e. it has very high Impact/Cut/Stab protection. But it also provides a decent amount of protection against range damage (Burn & Penetration), and Special damage, such as Acid & Cold which are quite commonly encountered when hunting on Monria. When hunting Shubs and Cultists, just add a plate which will provide additional Penetration protection like Mark.6A or Mark.7A (L) and you'll be all set.

    Rutuba (L): Rutuba is one of the strongest armors you can get which is especially well suited for hunting any high level mob on Monria, including the big Shubs. If there’s anything getting through your Rutuba armor when hunting the big Shubs in the Shub Cavern, then add a plate that will provide additional Stab protection.

    Perseus (L): There won’t be much getting through the Perseus armor when hunting the big Shubs, but if you want to deflect every hit, then add a plate with additional Penetration protection (Mark.6A or Pulsar 9 (L) should be sufficient).

    Shadow (L): The Shadow armor’s weakness is its lower Stab protection. You may do ok with it without any plates if your Evade is high and / or have a nice economical healing tool. If not, then add one of the Impact/Cut/Stab plates listed above (a plate from the top 4 would be best).

    Lich (L): This one will need plates with Penetration protection added as it has almost none. It will perform very well with Pulsar 6 plates, Pulsar 9 plates will allow a small amount of Penetration damage through.

    Spartacus (L), Vain (L) and Eon (L): These 3 armors should all perform the same against the big Shubs. They do not have enough Impact protection and will need to have Pulsar 5 plates added to them. In the case of Spartacus, a Pulsar 10 plate should be sufficient, but for the Eon and Vain armors, Pulsar 5 is highly recommended.

    Moonshine (L) or Holy (L) / Angel (L): These armors won’t be strong enough by themselves, you will need to add plates that provide a decent amount of additional Impact/Cut/Stab protection to hunt the big Shubs with them. But the Moonshine armor with it's 20 points of Cold protection is a great choice for hunting big mob on Monria, just add Mark.2E (L) plates to it for Acid protection when hunting Yogs or Cultists.

    Other armors that can be used for hunting big Shubs are (in no particular order): Special Ops, Sand Stormer, Sentinel, Chronicle, Mayhem, Ethereal, Supremacy, Wormslayer, Carramone…etc. I won’t go into any details regarding which armor is better or stronger than the other or what plates to use with them because they are rather rare armors and some of them are actually impossible to get at this time.

    If you want to hunt the lower level Shubs between the Cave 3 and Cave 4 TPs (level 17 to 33), then the following options should suit your needs:

    The armors below are listed from strongest to weakest against smaller Shubs:
    Aquila (L): This armor is one of the best choices a Monria hunter could make, it's perfect for hunting Yogs and Cultists without having to add any plates and it will also do very well on lower level Shubs. If you would like to test the Aquila on bigger Shubs (level 31 and above), it will hold up quite well also if you add the Pulsar 5 or Pulsar 10 plates to it.

    Stealth (L), Martial (L) and Solir (L): These 3 armors do not have any Cold or Acid protection, which you would need if you wanted to hunt Yogs or Cultists with them. But like the Aquila, they have a decent amount of Impact/Cut/Stab protection on them and you could venture into the Shub Cavern by adding Pulsar 5 or Pulsar 10 plates. For the lower level Shubs, just add any of the Impact/Cut/Stab plates from the list.

    Tiger (L), Jaguar (L) / Disco (L) or Hermes (L): Just add Impact/Cut/Stab plates to these and you will do fine. Tiger, Jaguar and Disco all have Cold and Acid protection as well, making them good armors to use on Yogs and Cultists.

    Jarhead (L), Boar (L), Luna (L) or eMINE (L): Same thing for these, just add Impact/Cut/Stab plates and you will do fine but Level 31 and 33 Shubs could be a bit tougher to deal with depending on your plates so if you do not want to have to heal, get plates with more Impact/Stab protection (i.e. Pulsar 10). If it comes down to choosing between these armors, Boar has more Cold and Acid and therefore would be better suited for hunting Yogs and Cultists.

    A.R.C Patrol (L) or A.R.C Elite (L): Add Pulsar 10 (L) or Pulsar 5 (L) plates to these Cyrene armors and it will be a breeze. Anything less and you will struggle on the level 31 and 33 and require healing. These 2 armors, along with Impact/Cut/Stab armor plates, can also be used for hunting Yogs and Cultists on Monria.

    Ozpyn Beetle (L): This is a cheap armor and also a good choice for hunting Shubs and Cultists with Pulsar 5 or AP-30 Impact plates. It will also work very well for hunting Yogs, with or without Impact/Cut/Stab plates.

    Polaris (L): This armor has no Impact protection, therefore it will require that you add AP-42 or AP-36 Impact plates to it. I list it here because it is quite possibly the cheapest protection you can get when you consider that Polaris sells for around 103-106%. The Cut, Stab and Penetration protection that the Polaris armor offers is pretty good for these Shubs and so with an AP-42 Impact plate added to it, I really see no reason why someone couldn't hunt the Shubs between Cave 3 and Cave 4. Once you get to the level 33 Shubs, you may start to see some of the Stab damage come through the armor, but it should be survivable.

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    Well there you have it, pretty much all of the armors that could be used when hunting Shubs on Monria, along with recommended armor/plate configurations.

    Many of the armors and plates mentioned above are made available through the Monria Armor Shop, which is shop #3 in the Cthulhu tower.

    As always, I appreciate your visit and welcome any feedbacks anyone wishes to provide.

    Cheers and happy Shub hunting o/

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  2. DarkMoonEnigma

    DarkMoonEnigma Connecting Moon Dots Staff Member Moderator Monria Yamato Pilot Community Manager MCAT Team Member Monria Media Team Chief Fun Officer

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    Very comprehensive and helpful. Thank you for taking the time to assemble all of this information. It's valuable to know options, and nice to know which options are available in your shop. :)
     
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    Wow you're a legend Legends ;)
     
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    Thanks very much Kendra :D

    UPDATE:

    1. Shadow and Angel are no longer yellow. I moved all of the Shadow to the RT Armor Shop.
    2. Moonshine is now yellow and many parts are now available for both male and female in the shop keepers in the Shub armor room.

    I am still working hard on completing the Rutuba and Spartacus armor sets. The Spartacus (F,L) is really close to being complete, only missing the shins. The Rutuba (F,L) is close as well, just missing gloves and groin-guard.

    I thought I should also let you know that for the female Rutuba and Spartacus armors, they can be worn over top of your clothing and this is good if you don't wish to look like a stripper or sex worker of some kind:laugh

    Here's a screenshot showing the Rutuba shoulder-guards and groin-guards being worn over top a jacket and a pair of jeans:

    Entropia 2017-09-03 20.23.15.jpg

    Cheers and happy Shub hunting o/

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    UPDATE:

    1. Polaris is no longer yellow. I moved all of the Polaris to the RT Armor Shop for now.
    2. I have added a full set of eMINE (M,L) armor and that is now yellow.
    3. I was able to get a pair of Spartacus Shins for the female set and that is now a complete set!
    4. I am working on getting Aquila armor to add to the shop at a reasonable price, stay tuned!

    Cheers and happy Shub hunting o/

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  6. DarkMoonEnigma

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    Great work with the armor shop Legends, and I'll have a look at that Aquila armor when you have it. :)
     
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    UPDATE:

    1. Moonshine is no longer yellow, due to most Moonshine armor parts having sold these last couple of weeks.
    2. I have added an almost full set of Angel (F,L) and turned it yellow. Just missing thighs.
    3. Aquila armor sets, male and female, have been added to the shop and Aquila is now yellow!

    Cheers and happy Shub hunting o/

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    You only have the (M) Aquila armor set left. :D

    And you might need to restock the Pulsar 6 Penetration Plates too. :p
     
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    DME! You are my biggest fan and I really appreciate that you encourage and support all of us through your purchases! Thanks so much and I'm sure you will love your new Aquila Armor and Pulsar plates! Best of luck to you!

    UPDATE:


    1. Replaced the female set of Aquila purchased by DME this last week :)
    2. The Angel (F,L) is now a complete set. Also worth mentioning it is full TT!
    3. Added a set of 7 Pulsar 9 plates to replace the Pulsar 6s bought by DME, so that is now yellow
    4. The male eMINE set sold and is no longer yellow
    5. Added a set of 7 Moonshine Plate 2s and that is now yellow

    Cheers and happy Shub hunting o/

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    FYI ... I bought the Pulsar 10 Plates ... I already have a set of Pulsar 6 Plates, plus Pulsar 3 Plates.

    Ever since Arkadia released the Aquila armor, I've always wanted to own it. I find that this is the perfect armor for all 4 of our mobs when adding the Pulsar 10 Plates. There's enough protection to handle up to and including the level 40 Shub. I haven't tested higher yet. I'm hoping I don't have to use the Perseus for the level 43, 47 and 50 Shubs. This armor also handles the level 36 K'Tan Cultist. Every mob damage type is covered. The variable that comes into play here is a player's HP, and mine is still low. Eventually, the dynamics will change for me. I don't get to play so much, so it's slow going.

    I'm a big fan of all our Shops, and especially those who are super active with how they service our community. Some of our Shop Owners go above and beyond, and are tuned into the needs of community members.

    I will be shopping this week for Saturday's event. I try to spread the love. :)
     
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    UPDATE:

    1. Added 5 parts of Shadow (M,L) to the male shopkeeper and so I'm turning Shadow armor yellow again
    2. I have added more Rutuba (M,L) armor parts, not a full set yet but it's getting there :)

    P.S. I have a full set of A.R.C. Patrol (M,L) armor ready to be added to the shop but I have run out of item points. Chat me in game for more info.

    Cheers and happy Shub hunting o/

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    UPDATE:

    1. Added an almost complete set (missing gloves) of Moonshine (M,L) and turned it yellow
    2. Added a complete set of A.R.C. Patrol (M,L) armor on the floor in the Cultists armor room and turned it yellow
    3. Stealth (M,C,L) armor no longer yellow


    Cheers and happy Shub hunting o/

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    UPDATE:

    1. Added Rutuba Arm-guards (M,L) and Foot-guards (M,L), making the Rutuba (M,L) armor a complete set!
    2. Added Shadow Harness (M,L) and Foot-guards (M,L), the Shadow (M,L) armor now only missing the Helmet


    Cheers and happy Shub hunting o/

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    UPDATE:

    Moved the following armor sets to my Merry Mayhem Armor Shop on Calypso:

    Moonshine (M,L)
    Rutuba (M,L)
    Shadow (M,L)
    Disco (M,L)
    Angel (F,L)
    Rutuba (F,L)
    Disco (F,L)
    Aquila (F,L)

    Please be advised that there could be reduced stock at the Monria Armor Shop throughout the duration of the Merry Mayhem event as I focus most of my energy on my Merry Mayhem Armor Shop @ Livas Heights #10 on Calypso.

    Thanks for understanding,

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    Update:

    1. Added both male and female Rutuba armor back in the shop and turned it yellow again
    2. Added some Moonshine parts in the shop as this is a popular armor, not quite a complete set though

    Cheers o/

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    Update:

    1. Added a complete set of Merry Mayhem (F,L) armor in the shop and turned it
    yellow - Hunt anything and everything on Monria with this set! I only have one, when sold, there won't be another of these until next year!
    2. I've also added a set of Mark.6A armor plates in the Shub room and that is now
    yellow ;)

    Cheers o/

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    Update:

    1. The set of Merry Mayhem (F,L) armor I added yesterday is already sold - if anyone else is interested in this set just let me know, I have 1 left on RT.
    2. Added a full set of Angel (F,L) and that is now
    yellow
    3. Added a set of Moonshine (F,L) which is only missing foot-guards, so that has been turned yellow
    4. Added a set of Shadow (F,L) which is only missing Shins, so Shadow has also been turned yellow now :)

    Cheers o/

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    UPDATE!

    1. Added a complete set of Merry Mayhem (F,L) armor in the shop and turned it
    yellow above - Hunt anything and everything on Monria with this set!
    2. Added complete sets of Jarhead (M,L) & (F,L) armor and so that is now
    yellow as well.
    3. Added a set of Jaguar (F,L) armor in the shop and turned Jaguar (L)
    yellow above.


    Cheers and happy Shub hunting! o/

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    I've updated the first post in this thread, notably I added the new Armor Plates just released in the last VU (AP plates). I've also added to the right of each armor plate listed a protection value amount, so for example, to the right of Pulsar 8 it states that the plate provides 36 points of Impact/Cut/Stab protection, which is just the sum of all 3 (11+19+6=36).

    Hope this helps, cheers o/

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    I just did some testing after noticing something unusual in the cave and can confirm they do elec damage too.

    Not sure on distribution so I just moved some numbers around. I'm pretty sure that 35% impact is wrong, I'm using paradox+pulsar 2 and it's very effective even with only 11 impact protection.
     

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