trying to figure out how to not offend someone

Discussion in 'General Monria Discussions' started by RaiE, Dec 3, 2019.

  1. RaiE

    RaiE New Member

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    I was told I couldn't make jokes in monria chat that were "sexual innuendo". I get that there are some nasty ppl out there who turn such jokes very hurtful and demeaning. I made a comment "Damn hooker..you see the size of that cultists tentacles?" and was quickly reprimanded. I was embarrassed to have this done to me publicly..and I really think that any mod should exercise some judgement and leeway if appropriate. I feel like I have to walk on eggshells..I just wanted a home with fun ppl I could enjoy playing alongside. I find it even more interesting to note that speaking of being beheaded..shot..killing etc etc..all ok. yet sex of any kind (the loving act that supports life) is a no no. I really think the policy should be loosened some.
     
  2. DarkMoonEnigma

    DarkMoonEnigma Connecting Moon Dots Staff Member Moderator Community Manager Monria Media Team MCAT Team Member

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    I'm going to leave this thread open and let the community respond to it, as well as Anhithe (the owner) when he has an opportunity. I already told you in PM in the game that I should have taken it to PM right away, but you and I have had this conversation before when you posted your short story that was very inappropriate for this forum, and did not let it go public out of the moderation queue. I took it to PM then and explained everything to you, as well as gave you the link to our Forum Posting Guidelines, but also said the same guidelines apply to the Monria chat channel.

    Also, this is what I said in Monria chat:

    [#monria] [RaiE Oegi]: any good tentacle pics?
    [#monria] [RaiE Oegi]: I lub me some tentacles
    [#monria] [DarkMoonEnigma]: there's a photo of a Shogg
    [#monria] [RaiE Oegi]: Damn hooker..you see the size of that cultists tentacles?
    [#monria] [DarkMoonEnigma]: we don't talk like that in Monria chat

    Monria is not like any other location or community in the universe, and we have the kind of community we do because of our guidelines at the Monria forum and in Monria chat in the game. We get positive feedback about it all the time.

    I have been quite busy, but I have had complaints from several members in the community about a few people causing drama in Monria chat for a while now, so I have a few Monria chat logs to review and will deal with it directly.

    Ant entrusts me as his Community Manager to take care of things in the manner with which he wants to see the Monria community evolve, and I'm sure he will explain that to you.

    In the meantime, this is all I'm going to say before the community and Anhithe respond.
     
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    RaiE New Member

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    Please create an 18+ Monria chat channel so that this isn't an issue..at all.
     
  4. Kingu

    Kingu Well-Known Member Volunteer Mentor MCAT Team Member

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    The comunity did its best i think to try explain the difference between Monria chat and all other planetary chats.. Monria do stick out as you may have noticed and some words or coments or special topic is not as tolerated as other planets as the playerbase on Monria like a slow chill fun chat with normal talk and able to read when thigs are aked for help and such and not use time on explaining how to be polite and respectfull and listen to what other say is acceptable.. Sorry i come out rude or worse, but cant realy find other ways to say this after the debate that was going in chat


    EDIT: PS. We dont need a 18+ age limit on Monria chat.. we just need happy positive players that stay off some topics :)
     
  5. Gredrrik Malgar

    Gredrrik Malgar Active Member Monria Yamato Pilot Volunteer Mentor Monria Media Member | Support Team MCAT Co-Mgr

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    I was going to let this one be as it almost seem to have sorted itself out until you Raie brought it up again today in Monria chat, using the very same language that you were asked not to use...

    The point is not to "Censor" you but to have a unified and mature chat channel where one does not have to worry about being cursed at or have profanity spread around (there's enough of that in the real world) , where everyone can enjoy decent, clean and unadulterated nonsense chat.

    This comes down to respect for the owner(s) / managers where or whoever, in game or out, they have put the rules in place and have asked nicely, this channel (not MA's) everyone abides to them happily and gets along just fine.
     
  6. RaiE

    RaiE New Member

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    why not be inclusive of all tastes? the pms I was getting suggest there is a place for a more mature chat
     
  7. RaiE

    RaiE New Member

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    and I brought it up this morning to try and gauge peoples feelings..seeing if I was out of my mind thinking that a soft approach is better than a dictatorial one
     
  8. Gredrrik Malgar

    Gredrrik Malgar Active Member Monria Yamato Pilot Volunteer Mentor Monria Media Member | Support Team MCAT Co-Mgr

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    You do not seem to understand the fact that the reason the Monrian community doesn't engage in such profanities is the reason it IS the mature chat.

    By all means if you feel the need to speak as such in PM's go ahead, there is literally nothing governing that chat however Monria chat has the rules in place, we're only asking they be kept.
     
  9. Eugenio Anhithe Wilde

    Eugenio Anhithe Wilde Moon Manager Staff Member Moderator Monria Media Team

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    Hey @RaiE first welcome to Monria :)

    I take full responsibility for the way that we moderate the chat channel as it is completely my decision to run things this way. You may not agree and I'm sure there are others that don't agree either. I'm fine with that and have been pretty consistent all along, EU is a big place with lots of room for everyone, and Monria may not be for everyone. It was never meant to be, we're just a small rock full of like minded people.

    I'm going to share some of the reasons why I do things the way I do:
    • I want people from different cultures and with different sensibilities to feel comfortable interacting. Some people have given me feedback about how they appreciate our moderation. It doesn't matter to me how many but If one person feels more comfortable because we steer away from certain topics then that's all the validation I need.
    • I've no time for 'drama'. This can happen when things escalate with red flag topics, its not even the odd innocuous comment that causes this but the following interactions which then escalates into something else.
    • Teenagers play. My children play occasionally and we have a few families who visit Monria who also have their children play. Call me old fashioned if you like but if a 13 year old with the consent of their Guardian is allowed to play EU I would like Monria chat to be as safe a place for them to interact in as I can manage.
    • Cyber bullying. A few people I care about have experienced this in EU and I'm not going to tolerate this in Monria chat so I expect civility.
    • We run our events through Monria chat and this becomes extremely difficult to do without some ground rules, logistically its a nightmare unless we moderate Monria chat.
    • A big goal for me is to increase the EU player base as best I can and we have more people that stay with us when they enter a warm and welcoming environment which is what we have.
    • We've been doing this for the past four years and I love the Monria community which is all the validation I need.
    I'm not suggesting by any means that the above applies to you and you're clearly an intelligent adult, I just want you to understand why I am steadfast in my approach. It would be very difficult for me to implement a sexual innuendo bar, or a point at which a religious or political discussion becomes too much. I prefer to just make it black and white so there's no confusion. I also prefer that we nip it in the bud and be open and honest about our approach early on. @DarkMoonEnigma has already accepted that she should have taken it to PM straight away because it was never our intention to embarrass you. She has been working 24/7 on our Monria magazine, has been sleep deprived and has a number of complaints from the community about 'chat drama' in her absence which we have to deal with. All of this is for the community that I hope you chose to be a part of.

    In closing there are lots of places to interact in EU that are not moderated, there are society's that have different values and you have the ability to create your own chat channels with whatever moderation you deem appropriate. I appreciate that you have enjoyed the vibe of Monria and wanted to be a part of it and have invested in an apartment. If you feel that perhaps you made a mistake then I don't want you to lose out and am more than happy to buy the apartment back and I will give it out as a prize in our events.

    You will of course always be welcome whatever you decide :)

    Ant
     
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    RaiE New Member

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    civil, clear, understandable, non-combative. I dig your response. ...I ain't sellin just yet ;)
     
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    am a law abiding citizan !
    things will change when i take over the moon and become president
     
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    that's my society leader .. i taught him everything he knows !
    do same rules apply to forums or we can spam what we fail to vent in chat ? :D
     
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  13. DarkMoonEnigma

    DarkMoonEnigma Connecting Moon Dots Staff Member Moderator Community Manager Monria Media Team MCAT Team Member

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    The rules apply to both the forum and Monria chat ... don't MAKE me go all nuts on you Axel. :D
     
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    i was just wondering thats all !
    beside i cannot make you angry now am on my way to monria to sell sweat
    i should be good till i run out of sweat to sell :D
     
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    DarkMoonEnigma Connecting Moon Dots Staff Member Moderator Community Manager Monria Media Team MCAT Team Member

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    You've got until Christmas Day until your 3 months for selling sweat to me is done.

    Now let's take this out of this thread because it's off-topic.
     
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    Kingu Well-Known Member Volunteer Mentor MCAT Team Member

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    Just use the soc chat for venting as i teached you :p Or even fill my pm list if there is anything .. hehe.. we sort it internaly and not Monria chat or forum .. After all you learned me i hoped I had learned you that :p
     
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